Madame Quixote

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  Do you recall your "point of no return"?

  by JH in

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  was there something special that happened, an event or maybe a deception, that triggered your point of no return as a jw.. .

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  Madame Quixote

  Nah, not really, just the whole thing sucked - being a jw.

  I guess getting laid really, really good for a really lonnngggg time by a worldly guy when I was 17 helped a lot!
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  "Must We Always Tell The Truth?" WT Feb.1

  by Cellist in

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  if this has been brought up already, i apologize.

  but, we just received the latest magazine with the title, "must we always tell the truth?".

  i was curious to see how they handled this topic, with their "theocratic warfare" (aka lying) in mind.

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  . . . trying to give themselves permission to lie about and hide all the abusers and pedophiles and financial vagaries of their little corporation . . .
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  Characteristics of Narcissistic Mothers

  by rebel8 in

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  http://www.geocities.com/zpg1957/narcissists.htm i've had some narcissistic types in my life and boy, does this article ring true.

  (this is not true of my mother but just like a mirror image of my sister.

  also reminds me of the dynamics of the wt org.

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  Sorry to hear that, Crazy Blonde.

  And sorry everyone for the rant; I've been trying to avoid bringing that specific subject up cuz it brings out so much . . . insufferable yacking in me . . . thanx for posting that rebel8. . . I think
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  Characteristics of Narcissistic Mothers

  by rebel8 in

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  http://www.geocities.com/zpg1957/narcissists.htm i've had some narcissistic types in my life and boy, does this article ring true.

  (this is not true of my mother but just like a mirror image of my sister.

  also reminds me of the dynamics of the wt org.

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  Madame Quixote

  I am sorry to hear that so many here have experienced the same kinds of things. It is too painful to keep reading and dwelling on my momster's behaviour, so I only read a bit of it. My siblings and I got to trade places as the golden child vs. the scapegoat over the years with momster's narcissism/bpd and dad's distance. The way the Watchtower Society operates, no one ever got diagnosed until momster developed empty nest syndrome (aka. "no one left at home to pick at except hubby".

  Sadly, I think my sister got the worst of it growing up, and my brother the best - being the youngest and male. Now, I can't stand to be around any of them. Last few times around, I got to see my younger sister repeating exactly the same kind of behaviour patterns with her own kids - making unfavorable comparisons, zoning out on them and then coming down on them really hard when she came out of her dissociation (or whatever the hell planet it is she's on while her kids are just being kids). She threatens to spank them constantly, (but doesn't follow through with it when I am around because she knows it disturbs me, and she probably fears with good reason that I'll report her for it).

  My last straw with sister was when she threatened the baby with a spanking. I tried to calmly explain that it wasn't appropriate and that kids that age don't have the brain development to even understand why they're being hit. Her response was,"Oh, he knows why . . . he knows better. . . " blah blah blah. So Jehovah's Witnessy . . . Aren't the jehobos a big help with their inflexible ideas about child-rearing "discipline" known as "spare the rod and spoil the child"? GAWD. I could just throw up and weep a thousand thousand times for my nephews . . .

  It's intolerable to be around that kind of mental horror show.

  I no longer crave their attention or affection cuz I finally learned they are untreated, narcissistic and/or b.p.d. people and I finally learned they won't have any of that (love or empathy) unless I please them 24-7. With an untreated narcisist or an untreated b.p. disordered person, there's never any such thing as unconditional love. And the same is true of most of the Jehovah's Witnesses that I knew growing up. (There were few exceptions).

  It's probably why I am such a people-pleaser and struggle just to get through the day without having anxiety over my performance here there and everywhere. I think the momster'schronic criticism and lack of predictability, coupled with the Watchtower/Jehovah mentality led to chronic unconscious anxiety about whether or not I would be the scapegoat or the golden child today; and chronic negativity reinforced pathological people-pleasing in me, to bask in the light of momster's skewed perceptions about who was wonderful today. One month or year you were black and the next you were white, depending on who/what triggered a split.

  I could go on all day about it, if you ask me to, but I won't. I do get tired of re-hashing it.
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  BIG JW MASS MURDER (another one)

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
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  slain brothers to be laid to rest saturday.

  the news journal, de - 18 minutes ago.

  dortch and his wife, stephanie, had been members of the congregation of jehovah's witnesses in elkton, md., since it was founded a year and a half ago, ... .......been "going quite well.

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  That Dortch guy really had some nerve investing his wife's retirement money; guess he figured she wouldn't need it as armageddon's right around the bend again.
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  The Jehovah's Witness Cult Hires Illegal Immigrants

  by lisavegas420 in

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  working in retail management is a never ending adventure.

  you never know what is lurking around the next corner.

  such was the case about six months ago when my boss asked me to stay over on a sunday night to watch the store while a floor cleaning crew did a strip and wax.. now with my self being a former jehovah's witness, i already knew that a great deal of the jw's owned and operated their own floor cleaning buisnesses, and there was a good chance that the floor crew on that sunday night would more than likely be a jw operation.. when the guys first walked in, i just had a feeling that my hunch was right.

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  Did you know that the INS has changed its name to the US Citizenship And Immigration Service and that it is no longer affiliated with the DOJ? Now that's weird.

  http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
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  The Jehovah's Witness Cult Hires Illegal Immigrants

  by lisavegas420 in

  1. watchtower
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  working in retail management is a never ending adventure.

  you never know what is lurking around the next corner.

  such was the case about six months ago when my boss asked me to stay over on a sunday night to watch the store while a floor cleaning crew did a strip and wax.. now with my self being a former jehovah's witness, i already knew that a great deal of the jw's owned and operated their own floor cleaning buisnesses, and there was a good chance that the floor crew on that sunday night would more than likely be a jw operation.. when the guys first walked in, i just had a feeling that my hunch was right.

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  Madame Quixote

  "Guess what? Now that you know about it, you are an accomplice to a felony! Have a nice day!"

  Agreed. Now, where would lisavegas get one of those spyglasses you wear in your eyeglasses?
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  Are we to be imitators of old ideas..or inovators of new better ideas?

  by The Dragon in

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  2. beliefs

  be getting alot of static about throwing out new ideas by those imitating and following the old ones.

  is the game of life about follow or fail..or lead and excell?

  should i discourge and intimidate my kids into doing as i do instead of coming up with their own ideas?.

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  Stifle your kids' growth and development and deny them the best future they can have?

  Do you really need an answer from anyone here to that question?

  Why would anyone willingly pass that kind of joylessness on to their kids?

  Are you getting "static" from JWs?

  Hon, there are better ways to be a parent than the JW way. They know nothing about child development, healthy parenting, or healthy living, for that matter.

  Please, seek help from outside sources on this matter; your kids deserve better than what you and I got, which was stifling and misery from the bOrg.
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  i'm still alive...

  by thebiggestlie in

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  i want to thank all of you for all your thoughtful pms.

  i'll respond to them in time but can't at the moment.

  i wanted to just check in and let you know that i'm doing relatively ok. the confrontation with my parents was a bit sticky.

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  Madame Quixote

  Sorry to hear they held a tribunal 'til 3 a.m. Those are awful. Glad you did not make a big scene. Try to hang in there. Check out jobcorps:

  http://jobcorps.dol.gov/

  I wish to gawd I knew about it when I was in my early 20's and floundering around. They will help you find work and an education.
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  New Jerusalem 607 B.C.E. web Site

  by jdough in

  1. jw
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  there is a new web site devoted to the false claim by jehovah's witnesses that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 b.c.e.

  please feel free to link to the site.

  http://www.geocities.com/jerusalem607/

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  Madame Quixote

  Better watch out, better not shout, here comes the armageddon snailOOooo here's armageddon, right aroung the corneroooo false alarm, new lighthere comes jesusand armageddon's right aroung the corner . . . again . . .